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Maybe even using a lot of language of persecution and victimhood?  I wonder what term we could use for that?</p>
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<p>I&#39;m concerned that the internet has become a plague of social justice locusts.</p>
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<p>We&#39;re very happy for you.</p>
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<p>I&#39;m not &quot;anti-religious&quot; I&#39;m &quot;anti-using-religion-to-get-rich&quot;. I am pro socialist because that&#39;s my political belief. </p>

<p>If you want to look at &quot;hijack tragedy via social media&quot; you might want to start with the current POTUS who admitted he pardoned Arpaio when he did becuse of ratings.</p>

<p>PS: downvoting within 1 minute of posting is hilarious.</p>
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<p>This is such a dumb argument.</p>
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<p>Social democracy is a political, social and economic ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a capitalist economy, as well as a policy regime involving a commitment to representative democracy, measures for income redistribution, and regulation of the economy in the general interest and welfare state provisions. Social democracy thus aims to create the conditions for capitalism to lead to greater democratic, egalitarian and solidaristic outcomes; and is often associated with the set of socioeconomic policies that became prominent in Northern and Western Europe—particularly the Nordic model in the Nordic countries—during the latter half of the 20th century.</p>

<p>Social democracy originated as a political ideology that advocated an evolutionary and peaceful transition from capitalism to socialism using established political processes in contrast to the revolutionary approach to transition associated with orthodox Marxism. In the early post-war era in Western Europe, social democratic parties rejected the Stalinist political and economic model then current in the Soviet Union, committing themselves either to an alternate path to socialism or to a compromise between capitalism and socialism.</p>

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<p>We have a ton of socialized state services and institutions</p>
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<p>capitalism and socialism are diametrically opposed ideologies and can&#39;t coexist</p>
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<p>But when some of the biggest institutions in Houston open their doors without question immediately and the largest church in the United States doesn&#39;t, people should be asking why and Osteen better have a damn good answer, because he failed his city when so many were willing to sacrifice in order to help.</p>
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<p>You seem to spend a lot of time questioning things. Why without question?</p>

<p>This is a hallmark of social justice and why it causes so much trouble: &quot;open their doors without question immediately&quot; is an EXTREME position of selflessness. Stating this position then justifies the opposite EXTREME position, that anyone who doesn&#39;t &quot;open their doors without question immediately&quot; is the opposite of what their cause stands for, which is asinine.</p>
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<p>why do institutions have to open their doors without question immediately? because you say so?</p>
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<p>Short answer is they don&#39;t.  Long answer is they don&#39;t.  In both the short and long answer people can make comments and criticism about what actions an organization / individual do or do not do.  If you don&#39;t like that tough shit go fuck yourself.  If you think it is unfair that people are criticizing what an organization / individual do or do not do then voice your concern and push back.  If you think people shouldn&#39;t be aloud to voice their opinions or criticism because it hurts your feelings or upsets you then go fuck yourself and grow up.  </p>
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<p>Do you want to help people, or fuck over Joel Osteen?</p>
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<p>Disagreement with a decision someone makes != publicly shaming them to force a desired outcome.</p>
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<p>You&#39;re adopting the stance that any criticism that changes someones behavior is forced and implying it&#39;s bad, that is bad reasoning.</p>

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<p>Certainly not advocating censorship, just questioning people&#39;s true motives.</p>
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<p>You say questioning, I say whining about people you don&#39;t agree with ...  potato / whiny shit as the saying goes.  But here is the thing you are free to do so.  </p>

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<p>Do you want to help people, or fuck over Joel Osteen?</p>
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<p>To quote that taco shell commercial, why not both.  You seen logical speaking an OR condition can be one or both.  So you can help people and you can fuck over Joel Osteen.  Of course what you see as trying to fuck over Joel Osteen others see as valid criticism of an individual ... that&#39;s life.  </p>
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<p>in pointing out your reasoning of OR, I am trying to show that extreme positions don&#39;t often get the desired outcome.</p>
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<p>And you&#39;re implying that Joel won&#39;t make decisions twitter agrees with unless forced to under the magnifying glass of ten thousand irritated twitterers.</p>
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<p>I&#39;m implying that Joel is a grown adult capable of making his own decisions and doesn&#39;t need idiots on the internet telling him what to do.  If Joel is so spineless that he caves to semi-anonymous figures on the internet criticizing him , well that is his problem.  </p>

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<p>in pointing out your reasoning of OR, I am trying to show that extreme positions don&#39;t often get the desired outcome.</p>
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<p>No you&#39;re just being a dip shit trying to prove your point by peddling an argument based on a false dichotomy. </p>
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<p>why do institutions have to open their doors without question immediately? because you say so?</p>
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<p>Because their tax-exempt status hinges on their service to the public.</p>
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<p>Is anyone questioning that Lakewood church does not provide a service to the public? </p>
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<p>Yes, actually, thats exactly what people were saying....
until the church was shamed into opening its doors to those who need help, only after blatantly lying about the condition of their tax-exempt Jesusball arena.</p>
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<p>A specific instance does not invalidate an organization&#39;s past history of providing public service</p>
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<p>Unless that specific instance is THE WORST FUCKING NATURAL DISASTER his city has ever seen.</p>

<p>Why would you carry that bathwater for a millionaire grifter who showed the world this week how utterly un-Christian he is?</p>
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<p>You can also do this without giving a flying fuck who Lakewood is or what they stand for.</p>
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<p>Again, you can support a philosophical position rather than all or nothing.</p>
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<p>Semantics.  If you can&#39;t see the hypocrisy of a multimillionaire clergyman lying about his massive basketball arena being flooded to avoid having to help the people of his city, you really have no business trying to discuss it.</p>
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<p>I see nothing in your straw man argument that confirms that he&#39;s lying, or being hypocritical. you have no power.</p>
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<p>Is this the new normal? People trying to hijack every tragedy via social media for their own gain?</p>
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<p>Only on social media.</p>
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<p>Is this the new normal?</p>
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<p>Yes. Welcome to the smart phone world, you can&#39;t put the genie back in the bottle now.  Humans have 24/7 internet portals they carry with them everywhere they go in the form of social media apps on these smartphones who BTW were by design made to be extremely addicting and therefore hard to put down.  All those minutes and hours aren&#39;t being used to play solitaire anymore.</p>

<p>Edit: You can downvote, but whether you give a fuck about social justice or not this IS the modern state of the world.  My comment was meant to be a neutral observation on such state. </p>
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<p>Here&#39;s the deal, most of these &#39;gotcha&#39; people get their news from memes.</p>

<p>If anyone would do just a little investigation, they&#39;d know that The Summit, aka Compaq Center, aka Lakewood Church is built below ground level. The first floor is below street level. Another hurricane brought 4 feet of water into The Compaq Center a few years ago. Since being owned by Lakewood, a retaining wall has been installed to keep out water. It was about to overflow that wall, which is why they offered only 100 beds on the 2nd floor of the church when this all started. They didn&#39;t want people to be flooded over if the wall was breached. Sounds logical, right?</p>

<p>They also never &#39;closed their doors&#39;. They were immediately taking in donations and helping anyone that came by. Again, they asked the city about becoming an official shelter, but the city didn&#39;t need them at the time. They had the GRB and other smaller shelters all over the city. </p>

<p>This tragedy is just being used to trash religion, Christianity (there&#39;s a meme about Osteen turning people away while mosques let people in), and Houston in general.</p>

<p>But haters gonna hate, right? (talk in memes to be understood by the memers, right?)</p>
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<p>people are addicted to protesting....they need that fix of rushing endorphins. when there are no planned protests, they get the fix on social media by virtue signalling etc...</p>
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<p>In the spirit of OP&#39;s post, let&#39;s protest against these protestors</p>
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