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<p>Not to discount their political prowess. </p>

<p>Edit: I think the Pod Save America gents got the right of it. Mnuchin told Trump what the consequences of defaulting were and he was scared and took the first deal to cross his path. </p>
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<p>Doubt this was a smart way to go about it, but this is Trump.</p>
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<p>Treasury has emergency powers that will prevent shutdown until April. </p>
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<p>The Daily with Michael Barbaro states something similar.</p>

<p>Pelosi said that she was impressed with Schumer&#39;s ability to speak &quot;New York&quot; with Trump.</p>
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<p>Pelosi said that she was impressed with Schumer&#39;s ability to speak &quot;New York&quot; with Trump.</p>
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<p>Oh god, is he that easily manipulated? </p>
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<p>(Lmao <em>oh yeah he is</em>)</p>
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<p>Let&#39;s be real. It&#39;s wasn&#39;t meant to be savage. </p>
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<p>It might turn out to be though. The GOP doesn&#39;t want a debt ceiling or gov&#39;t funding fight while it is in power because the base will be at odds with the leadership. This basically lost Boehner his job as he had to keep bringing bills to the floor that didn&#39;t get even a majority of GOP votes. </p>
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<p>There&#39;s a reason &quot;don&#39;t take the first offer&quot; is a thing.</p>
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<p>because he&#39;d rather talk to his hot daughter who works down the hall.</p>
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<p>Apparently she literally walked in right after Trump agreed to three months and they weren&#39;t able to get back on topic after that.</p>
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<p>We agreed to a three-month extension on debt ceiling, which they consider to be sacred—very important—always we’ll agree on debt ceiling automatically because of the importance of it.</p>
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<p>You tell em Donnie! </p>
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<p>Trump got his &#39;win&#39;.  That&#39;s all he cares about- TODAY.  Screw what his decisions mean 2 months from now.  All that matters is being able to get a win TODAY.  Forget whether it means a massive loss 1 year from now, or forget if that personal win today means a loss for millions.  It&#39;s all about him winning today.</p>

<p>It looks like Chuck and Nancy caught on- just give Trump something he can hold up and say &quot;LOOK! WINNING!&quot; and he&#39;ll screw over whomever necessary to get that.</p>

<p>It&#39;s like playing chess with someone who only cares if they can take a piece, any piece, on his current move.</p>

<p>Put a pawn out on your 3rd move of the game that can be taken by his queen (even though you can take his queen in retaliation with another pawn on the next move)?   Perfect strategy- all he wants is to take your pawn this move, whatever the cost!</p>
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<p>They would gladly spend a hundred dollars later if it meant saving ten RIGHT NOW.</p>
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<p>I want $10,000 for a new car but can only realy afford that used clunker for $2,000.</p>

<p>Here&#39;s a loan for 14.5%.  You&#39;ll end up spending $20,000 for that $10,000 car.  </p>

<p>SOLD!</p>
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<p>Those senators wanted the debt ceiling fight to happen AFTER the 2018 midterms, not before.</p>
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<p>Not quite. GOP <strong>leadership</strong> wanted that. A bunch of the GOP senators have stated that they won&#39;t vote for a debt ceiling increase without corresponding cuts (nevermind that this isn&#39;t the budget). </p>
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<p>It&#39;s the continuing resolution that he has an issue with.</p>
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<p>Sens. Bob Corker, Steve Daines, Mike Enzi, Joni Ernst, Deb Fischer, Jeff Flake, Lindsey Graham, Chuck Grassley, Ron Johnson, James Lankford, Mike Lee, John McCain, Jerry Moran, Rand Paul, James Risch, Ben Sasse, and Pat Toomey all voted against the bill.
Three other Senators, Florida&#39;s Marco Rubio, Alaska&#39;s Dan Sullivan and New Jersey&#39;s Bob Menendez, who is currently on trial for corruption and bribery, did not vote.</p>
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<p>Steve Daines (R)</p>

<p>Mike Enzi (R)</p>

<p>Joni Ernst (R)</p>

<p>Deb Fischer (R)</p>

<p>Jeff Flake (R)</p>

<p>Lindsey Graham (R)</p>

<p>Chuck Grassley (R)</p>

<p>Ron Johnson (R)</p>

<p>James Lankford (R)</p>

<p>Mike Lee (R)</p>

<p>John McCain (R)</p>

<p>Jerry Moran (R)</p>

<p>Rand Paul (R)</p>

<p>James Risch (R)</p>

<p>Ben Sasse (R)</p>

<p>Pat Toomey (R)</p>

<p>Three other Senators didn&#39;t vote:</p>

<p>Marco Rubio (R),</p>

<p>Dan Sullivan (R)</p>

<p>Bob Menendez (D)</p>

<p>...But both parties are the same, right?</p>
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<p>Ben Sasse</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Ben Sasse was just on a book tour about how millennials aren&#39;t adults.</p>

<p>Apparently, part of <em>properly adulting</em> includes &quot;not paying your debts.&quot;</p>
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<p>Except the greatest generation. Those mother fuckers literally beat Fascism. It&#39;s too bad we didn&#39;t do a good enough job of maintaining herd immunity.</p>
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Please, millennials.</p>
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<p>Apparently, part of properly adulting includes &quot;not paying your debts.&quot;</p>
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<p>The debt ceiling votes are so idiotic. If they were just called the debt payment votes we wouldn&#39;t have this problem, but blocking it polls well with the voting base, literally because of the bad name, so the GOP wants to use it to their advantage. </p>
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<p>Not only but at least we&#39;re consistent with shitty people?</p>
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We are very consistent on shitty politicians.</p>
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<p>Specifically, his issue is that yet another CR is just further evidence that Congress is incapable of doing its job and passing actual appropriations bills, and continually tying CRs to urgent legislation is just an excuse to keep kicking the can down the road.</p>
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<p>continually tying CRs to urgent legislation is just an excuse to keep kicking the can down the road.</p>
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<p>Yeah but the current alternative is shutting down the government given that NEITHER party has pushed hard for an actual budget and we are going to run out of money relatively soon...</p>
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<p>No. If you walk up to the cash register and decide to buy, <em>you pay the fucking bill you agreed to pay</em>.</p>

<p>No other fucking country that I&#39;m aware of requires both agreement to buy then later agreement to pay for what they have all ready agreed to buy. it&#39;s insane.</p>
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Conservatives calling him out for not supporting the President, liberals calling him out for not supporting disaster victims....</p>
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<p>We might see more flooding from Irma, though, because east TN is more smaller creeks and rivers than west TN and is more flood prone. Doubt it&#39;ll change Corker&#39;s mind though.</p>
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<p>Harvey also impacted TN slightly, about as much as Irma will.</p>
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<p>Harvey caused the temperature to drop like 20 degrees, and it was raining sheets of water.  To be honest, it was pretty nice.</p>

<p>That said, we also had a few tornadoes pop up.</p>
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<p>Pat Toomey (R)</p>
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<p>Why am I fucking not surprised.</p>
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<p>Unfortunately, though, we do harbor Pennsyltucky.</p>
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It&#39;s the only place I&#39;ve ever lived, and at this point I have more reasons to stay than to move someplace else. Our state politics are famously corrupt and terrible, and the liberal urban hubs to the east and west often get screwed by the rural, conservative middle (kinda like a microcosm of the country). </p>

<p>But there&#39;s also a lot of cool stuff here -- woods and lakes and rivers and rolling farmland, big cities and quiet little towns, history everywhere you look. Philly is often overlooked as a big East Coast city, but it has a world-class food scene, multiple breweries, a robust transit system, a ton of diversity -- and it&#39;s <em>way</em> more affordable than Boston, NYC or DC. (It&#39;s also dirty as fuck, which helps scare off some of the yuppies.)</p>

<p>How do you like the Deep South? I haven&#39;t been down that way and I&#39;ve always been curious about it myself.</p>
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<p>Bob Corker (R), Tennessee</p>

<p>Deb Fischer (R), Nebraska</p>

<p>Jeff Flake (R), Arizona</p>

<p>If they do not lose their seat (or a republican is voted into their seat), I think its safe to say that the majority of voters in those states are brainwashed Republican zombies, when it comes to politics.</p>
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<p>Tennessee</p>

<p>Nebraska</p>

<p>Arizona</p>
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<p>I have some bad news for you. Flake is probably the only vulnerable one of the three, but he&#39;s more likely to lose via a curiously well-funded challenge from the right in the primary than lose in the general to a Democrat.</p>
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<p>I only mentioned Flake&#39;s primary issues because I can totally see him losing at that point.</p>
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I am curious about which places&#39; voters are against federal aid for disasters. </p>
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<p>Bob Corker (R), Tennessee [seat up for 2018 election]</p>

<p>Steve Daines (R), Montana</p>

<p>Mike Enzi (R), Wyoming</p>

<p>Joni Ernst (R) and Chuck Grassley (R), Iowa</p>

<p>Deb Fischer (R) [seat up for 2018 election] and Ben Sasse (R), Nebraska</p>

<p>Jeff Flake (R) [seat up for 2018 election] and John McCain (R), Arizona</p>

<p>Lindsey Graham (R), South Carolina</p>

<p>Ron Johnson (R), Wisconsin</p>

<p>James Lankford (R), Oklahoma</p>

<p>Mike Lee (R), Utah</p>

<p>Jerry Moran (R), Kansas</p>

<p>Rand Paul (R), Kentucky</p>

<p><del>James</del> Jim Risch (R) , Idaho</p>

<p>Pat Toomey (R), Pennsylvania</p>
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<p>God I hate that she represents my state. Fuck.</p>
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<p>Edit: I realize that Menendez didn&#39;t vote...I&#39;ll leave my comment as is for the sake of posterity.</p>
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<p>I&#39;ll admit it doesn&#39;t look good for him, but the reason he didn&#39;t vote is because he was in court at the time.</p>
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<p>save for one Democrat who was away from the Senate at the time of the vote.</p>
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<p>It&#39;s hard to make it back for a vote when you&#39;re busy being on trial for corruption. </p>
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<p>Florida!</p>
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<p>Steve Daines, MT</p>

<p>Mike Enzi, WY</p>

<p>Joni Ernst, IA</p>

<p>Deb Fischer, NE</p>

<p>Jeff Flake, AZ</p>

<p><strong>Lindsey Graham, SC</strong></p>

<p>Chuck Grassley, IA</p>

<p>Ron Johnson, WI</p>

<p>James Lankford, OK</p>

<p>Mike Lee, UT</p>

<p>John McCain, AZ</p>

<p>Jerry Moran, KS</p>

<p>Rand Paul, KY</p>

<p>James Risch, ID</p>

<p>Ben Sasse, NE</p>

<p>Pat Toomey, PA</p>

<p>One of these is not like the others.  Notice a certain geographical bias?</p>
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<p>Eight Republicans joined with every Democrat to advance the measure. Key support came from GOP conservatives from disaster-affected states, including Roy Blunt of Missouri, John Hoeven of North Dakota and tea party favorite Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, who switched his vote after voting against the measure on Monday.</p>
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<p>In &#39;off years&#39; those tend to be local only.</p>

<p>Every 2 years the entire House is up for election (even numbered years, 2016, 2018, etc...).</p>

<p>A Senators term is 6 years, with 1/3 up for re-election every 2 years.  (They are staggered so the whole Senate isn&#39;t up for reelection at a time- instead they do 1/3 in 2016, 1/3 in 2018, and the final 1/3 in 2020.  Then those who were elected in 2016 are up next for reelection in 2022 and so on and so on).</p>

<p>Presidents every 4 years.</p>

<p>Inbetween those presidential years are called &quot;mid terms&quot;.</p>

<p>I don&#39;t think there&#39;s really a name for inbetween midterms (like what&#39;s 2017?  It&#39;s just a random year that still has elections, just not for House, Senate or President).</p>
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<p><sup>Or</sup> <sup>is</sup> <sup>even</sup> <sup>human.</sup></p>
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<p>By passing a 3 month extension, they are guaranteeing that they have to piss their base off with such a vote again, just before the primaries start kicking off. They were hoping to keep it after the primaries, or even better after the general election next year, giving them enough time to decide how to spin it to their base without taking a current political hit.</p>
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<p>the 17 Senators who voted against the bill were all Republicans.</p>
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<p>Can a &quot;real progressive&quot; remind me again how Dems and Republicans are totally the same?</p>

<p>I was told that over and over during the Dem primaries and, sadly, by far too many leading right up to November&#39;s election.</p>

<p>I&#39;m still not seeing it though...</p>
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<p>Don&#39;t visit /w/wayofthebern then if you don&#39;t want to see self-proclaimed progressives hating the Dems with a fury that should be reserved for someone like Trump.</p>
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Marco Rubio didn&#39;t vote. </p>
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<p>I&#39;ve seen a lot of talk about how the Democrats got everything they wanted in this bill, but that&#39;s only true if you ignore the fact that the 3-month extension was a compromise on their part. They would have preferred a clean Harvey relief bill with no debt-ceiling increase. They gave up something when they offered the GOP 3 months respite from their (self-caused) debt-ceiling worries. The GOP seem to be trying to spin this as a route, when really the only thing that didn&#39;t happen was that they didn&#39;t get everything they wanted.</p>
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<p>they didn&#39;t get everything they wanted.</p>
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<p>Depends on what they wanted - this could push the ceiling debate into the midterm election season, and will make republicans look unelectable if they can&#39;t get their shit together.</p>
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<p>every Democrat that voted on the bill was in favor of it, while the 17 Senators who voted against the bill were all Republicans.</p>
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<p>The Senators didn&#39;t vote against Harvey Funding, they voted against lifting the debt limit for only three months. At the very least, most of them wanted the ceiling lifted for six months so Congress can get through some tough rounds of other negotiations. </p>

<p>The real outrage here should be over the hypocrisy of the GOP regarding the debt ceiling. They always fought democrats tooth and nail to raise, and now suddenly they want it raised for like 18 months, no questions asked. Whenever the Obama administration pushed for long-term raises they threw a fit.</p>
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<p>while the 17 Senators who voted against the bill were all Republicans.</p>
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<p>No surprises there.</p>
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